"Can you please talk about some conspiraces concerning Bill Cipher?" -COOLMAN
You can bet your -12 dollar bill I can! Speaking of negative twelve dollar bills, my friend Jill is amazing, she got me one for Christmas, along with a Stan dollar. Bless her, I love her so much...
By the way, Coolman, I am so sorry that this is so late! School is a pain, but a pain we all have to go through. It sucks.
Anyway, on to the theories!! Well, conspiracies more like. Not all of these are mainly about Bill Cipher, but they all are related to him in some way.
"Can you talk about Stans brother the author please" -Submitted by Mary Kehoe
"Is stans real name Sanford?" -Submitted by Jojo
"OK so in the second episode of gravity falls the legend of the gobblewonker. We can see the front of the license plate says STNLYMBL or Stanley Mobile, but Stan's real name is StanFORD so this is the first instance of there being someone close to Stan that shares the same name(his twi brother we already know about), but how did he get that car. Basically that is all post it or don't. I am just rewatching with a fres set of eyes." -Submitted by Nathan Ho
Who is Stan? Despite being one of the main characters of the series, we honestly don't know much about his past (though we have had some flashbacks).
Buuutttt (heh. butt.) with what we've seen in Not What He Seems, a bit more has been shown about Stan's past life. It provided evidence for two major theories surrounding the twins: the Stan Swap theory, and the Grunk4Gramp theory (they go hand in hand with each other).
This post will talk about Grunk4Gramp, touching briefly on Stan Swap, and the twins' identities and past, which all in all is a looott of info. However, I just want to say right now that this post is twin-centric, and theories about one twin specifically will not be touched on in this post, but later on in the blog series in "Gravity is Falling: Stanford Theories" and "Gravity is Falling: Stanley Theories". Anyway, this post is kinda long (so much searching went into this omg), so I put it under "Read more"!
Now let's get into it!
"Can you talk about dippers real name and Stans brother the author please" -Submitted by Mary Kehoe
Dipper's real name? Oo, of course! I've been meaning to do a post on this for a while now. (But since you along with a couple others requested a post on Stan's brother, I will be acknowledging it in a different post. I hope that's alright!)
There are many different theories surrounding this topic, one of them based on a short moment during Irrational Treasure.
Quentin Trembley III says, "...And Roderick (Dipper interrupts with "Actually, I-"), you dear boy are on your way to unlocking the mysteries of this great land! So I'd like you to have my president's key."
If Trembley is someone to trust, then perhaps Roderick is Dipper's real name. This would explain why Dipper interrupted with, "Actually, I-", because maybe he was going to say something along the lines of, "Actually, I go by the name Dipper."
Here is another theory:
Basically, it centers around the idea that Stanley (the assumed grandfather of Dipper and Mabel), was the one that died in the car crash. Thus, Dipper's father names him Stanley, but he prefers to go by Dipper.
Another one deals more with a relation to Mabel's name, and is titled "Amabilis and Mabel Pines":
"So imagine this...
"While procrastinating, decided to throw some names through Wolframalpha (which is one of the greatest databases known to man) and ended up with another Gravity Falls theory.
It's a tree... It's a flipping tree... From the Pacific Northwest, basically, Gravity Falls Oregon.
This final one is interesting, and is more religious based. Along with the Amabilis one, this one is one of my favorites:
"Cain and (M)abel?
Stan and Dip are often seen butting heads throughout the show because they're similarly stubborn and arrogant. Stan mostly just wants Dipper to quit his mystery solving (which honestly isn't really that great of a thing to be doing anyway), but Dip's reluctant. A line in the bible goes like this:
Some interpreters believe that Cain wasn't the son of Adam and Eve like Abel was, but instead was the son of Eve and Satan. I seriously doubt that's the case in Gravity Falls, but if Bill, the supposed Devil-like figure in this world, does have something to do with the mark, maybe that explains some of the parallels that exist between Bill and Dipper (and Dipper's ability to decipher codes in his head like some freakish superpower).
Essentially, she becomes a savior and even takes a Christ-like position, just as Abel does in the Bible. The death of Jesus and the death of Abel are often compared; the difference being that "the blood of Jesus is interpreted as bringing mercy, but that of Abel is demanding vengeance", hence the mark Cain has to live with cursing him to never die a premature death. The brothers become two opposing forces in the end; Abel being a light of righteousness and Cain representing perdition.
Aaaand those are some theories surrounding Dipper's name! There isn't much people can go off of, since not much (if at all) information about his name has been alluded to within the show.
Regarding Stan's brother, the author, I will be talking about him in a different post since several people requested it. So keep your eye out!
// kimiko hope
"Based on the probability that the character Stanley exists, I believe that Stanley is actually Grunkle Stan, who has assumed Stanford Pine's identity since the portal's first opening 30 years ago. Stanford Pines is the true author of the book. The memories and quotes from Grunkle Stan reveals that he's a fraud who travels around and gets imprisoned around a lot. Thus, it's highly improbable that he's been living in Gravity Falls all this time (Time Traveler's Pig). It's also revealed that the house belonged to a scientist, who built secret portals and static-carpets in his house-lab. Thus, it's obvious that the scientist and the author is one and the same. Since the house has always belonged to Stanford Pines, the answer has literally written itself on who the author is. The Shapeshifter also mentioned that the author hasn't been himself in 30 years, which means that Shapeshifter thinks the author is still alive but has changed into a different person. This further improves the possibility that the fraud Stanley stole the scientist and author, Stanford Pines's identity. This might also explain why Bill Cipher thought about an image of a younger Stan when the name Stanford Pines was mentioned. There's no other way to explain how Grunkle Stan came upon the portal, the books, and the secret codes used unless he personally knew the Author. It's also possible that he was the one who betrayed Stanford Pines, as he mentions a certain "He" in his messages. Finally, in the newest trailer for the next episode, the trailer seem to weigh heavily on the Pine twins calling Stan the greatest uncle in the world. If anything, I'd say Stan was getting a guilty conscience for lying to them about being their uncle. Thoughts?" -Submitted by Xian is wut wut in my wut
And I recall seeing the entire thing sometime last year (or possibly even earlier), and if I remember correctly, it was possible ways that the characters were going to be introduced in the pilot? I am not sure. But still: "I'm... I'm probably you're uncle"?
Interpret it how you want... But I think it helps support your theory even more!
My reaction was literally "Oooo... OOOOOOOO!!"
(Also, all of you people submitting have rad names. Like, 10/10)
So your theory behind Grunkle Stan being a fraud is that he is not actually Stanford, but someone else (specifically Stanley) entirely? Dang. That's good man... That's good. (Can you hear how blown my mind is right now)
I love how this theory puts a totally different spin on the whole "fraud" thing, and you have a pretty good amount of evidence to back it up! And it would also explain why he looked guilty in the trailer for Not What He Seems...
Ahh, after reading this I'm even more hyped for the episode!! Xian, if you have anymore theories, make sure to send them in, I would love to hear them! // kimiko hope
P.S. I put this in another response to another submission, but I think it's relevant to this one as well... I found this while on tumblr:
"I saw a small image on the internet the other night suggesting that Carla (from stanford's past) was lil' gideon's mom. It was an interesting thought and I thought you might be able to dive a little deeper. Thanks, hope it isn't too much trouble." -Submitted by willowspirit (GF lovah!)
Gravity Falls lovers unite!
Hi Willow!! Haha, don't worry, it shouldn't be much trouble!
So Carla being Lil Gideon's mom, eh? That's a new one! Let's get into it shall we~
Since I have never heard of this theory before, I looked it up on Google. This led me to a certain tumblr post, which I assume is what you saw (or maybe not? idk this was one of the only ones that came up):
"okay so this is just ONE of my theories and i have a billion not really but you know what i mean.So i’ve read some other ones and gathered a lot of info and i’ve thought a lot about this so here it goes.every body knows about pinescest right?and a lot of people ship it,remember this it’s important.so another headcanon says carla (stans young lover) is gideons mom.another is that she wrote the book and that gideon hypnotized (exuse my 5 year old spelling)her with a spell from the book. in the end of the gideon commercial it says “consult your physicist immediately.Carla,I’ve always loved you but never had the guts to say it.”That might mean that she was hypnotized during the show,but gideons dad didnt know he did it on purpose,so he thought that maybe during a show some one could be mentally scarred or traumitised during it.or maybe gideon used his mom as a apprentice and hypnotized her.any way has any one noticed that young carla’s hair looks a lot like mables?so theres a chance stan and carla might have had a incest relationship like maybe a unmentioned sister or a cousin or maybe possibly a daughter or step daughter or neice,stan does look a little older then her.but after the hippie incident she left.wich might also explain gideons mom because she was supposedly hypnotized.after that he might have died or left possibly because the curse drove her mad and he never lifted it.but wether it was gideon being all sassy and rude or a curse she doesn’t date the hippie anymore.Stan might still love her and gideons dad knows about it and is the reason for there rivalry.he might love carla but carla doesnt love gideons dad back.there is also another headcanon that stan is dipper in the future.wich might be the reason mabel and dipper were sent there so they could be closer so maybe mable wouldnt leave insisting mable is carla wich who is gideons mom.im insane i know.thank you for reading if you didnt leave first because this completely ridiculous.so so silly." -From http://gravity-falls-conspiracies.tumblr.com
To be honest, I am going to ignore the majority of that (because it's kind of weird... specifically the incest part), and put my own spin on this whole shebang.
Bud Gleeful, Gideon's father, is known to have a rivalry with Stan right from the get-go. It is automatically assumed that this is due to their rivaling businesses, "The Mystery Shack" and "The Tent of Telepathy", but who's to say it doesn't go deeper than that?
Commercials for Lil Gideon's Tent of Telepathy is voiced by Bud himself, as you can see here:
"Carla, I've always loved you but never had the guts to say it"? Bud loves a woman named Carla?
Gideon's mother's actual name has never been stated outright in the show, and in canon, is simply "Mrs. Gleeful". This is even shown in the episode Society of the Blindeye, where she was one of the many citizens in Gravity Falls to have her memories taken away:
Knowing that, I want to bring your attention to the ending of the longer commercial (which can't be found anywhere on YouTube, by the way. Seriously?). During this commercial, Bud does the thing where he speaks really fast and the text goes through the screen quickly as well, to match the pace of the sped-up voice. The most notable thing is the last part he says:
So what am I getting at? Her first name could totally be Carla! Last names aren't an issue here, since traditionally, the wife takes on the husband's last name when they are married.
But speaking of the Society of the Blindeye... Do you remember how McGucket was like before the effects of the memory ray took a toll on him?
Now he has went insane, and his overall appearance is rougher, and less clean.
...Similar to how Mrs. Gleeful looks.
At these points, McGucket is not only acting sane, but his appearance is of the norm as well. This is in contrast to later on:
She seems, well, frazzled... This could've been a result of many occurrences of having her memory wiped.
I mean, after witnessing another one of Gideon's tantrums, she kept muttering "Just keep vacuuming, just keep vacuuming..." to herself.
But why would she need to have her memory wiped?
I'd say from teenage years to late 20s/early 30s? Quite a while.
It's highly possible that during this time, Stan was into the paranormal the way he is now. And since Stan and Carla were so close... Who's to say that Carla didn't know about the happenings of Gravity Falls as well?
If Carla knew about the journals and the strange things that went on in Gravity Falls, it would be a very good reason behind why she would have her memory wiped by the Blindeye Society... And a good explanation for how Gideon obtained the journal.
The show never explained how Gideon got the 2nd journal, so it's really up to interpretation. For the purpose of this theory, I speculate that he received the journal from his mother (or at least through his mother), due to her possible knowledge of the journals because of her close relationship with Stan.
And that's my theory! Bam whaattt. If you ever need me to delve deeper into any more theories Willow, let me know! This was a ton of fun! // kimiko hope
Note: I am really regretting not posting some of these submissions, but still! This question was sent in before Society of the Blindeye aired, and this post was written prior to the episode as well. I'm posting this anyway because who knows, it may spark a theory of your own!
Ever since the series began, you could tell that Old Man McGucket was a strange man.
In The Legend of the Gobblewonker, it was shown that he built giant (evil?) robots:
Hey there Anony! Thank you for submitting! [I am so sorry for this late response, I intended to respond a lot sooner...]
Since usually I compile theories from other blogs, this will be my first time doing it on my own! Regardless of that, I hope you enjoy.~
*squeals from excitement* Let's get started!
"Hey! I was wondering if you'd do a post on the Old Man McGucket theory. You know, the one where he's the author. Please, please, please write one up!" - Anony Mous
It was this point where it was revealed that the "Gobblewonker" that Dipper and Mabel chased was actually just another one of his creations, and that it was all a lie...
But does that mean that the existence of the Gobblewonker itself was a lie as well? The answer is no.
At the end of the episode, for a mere five seconds, the (assumed to be) real Gobblewonker is shown eating a fallen camera. You can tell that this is the real Gobblewonker for it is more detailed than the robot, and its eyes are not glowing.
Well what point are you trying to make, Kimiko? I'm glad you asked!
Although the robot was not an exact replica of the monster, it was certainly realistic enough to pass as the legitimate thing.
Even Gideon himself knew of McGucket's abilities, and requested for him to create an enormous, high-tech robot replica of him in the episode Gideon Rises.
This leads me to believe that the 'Gobblewonker' Old Man McGucket created was not a spawn of his insanity, but based on something he has seen before. How else would he be able to create something so close to the real thing?
In Headhunters, Mabel creates a wax figurine of Grunkle Stan. As she takes questions after Grunkle Stan presents the 'Eighth Wonder of the World' at the reopening of the wax museum, Old Man McGucket is the first to stand up.
Here, he asks, "Old Man McGucket, local kook. Are the wax figures alive? And, follow-up question, can I survive the wax man uprising?"
A little weird, don't you think? Doesn't it seem like he knows?
After all, from this, it really seems like Old Man McGucket knows about the weird happenings in the town.
If this is true, then why isn't he serious about it? Why doesn't he try to pass off as a normal citizen of the town, like Stan is? He is so strange- completely mad and insane.
Almost as if he went mad and insane.
I mean, in Fight Fighters he was playing the arcade game when it wasn't on (for seven days straight, might I add!) and he does not even live in a house- his home is literally the dump (which is where Dipper finds out about his strange 'car science lab').
We don't know how long he has been like this, but since he calls himself the 'local kook' we can assume that it has been for a long time. Maybe even a good... 30 years.
'Thirty years' is a big part of the show and has been mentioned several times.
It is first mentioned in Scary-oke, where Stan says: "Thirty long years, and it's all led up to this: my greatest achievement! Probably should've worn pants."
It is also brought up by the Shape Shifter, who after Dipper asks what he did to the author, he responds, "You'll likely never find out. That six-fingered nerd hasn't been himself in thirty years! But I thank you for bringing me his journal. He used to write it while I was in my cage..."
'Hasn't been himself in thirty years'? This shows that something happened thirty years ago- the author was himself, before. Until what ever mysterious event took place that drove him mad.
What exactly could have happened? This might be a long-shot, but I have an idea... But before I tell you, let me remind you of the code from the end of season one.
To decipher this code, you use a Combined Cipher: a mix of two or more ciphers seen in the show. It's solved by switching the letters using A1Z26 cipher, then flipping it with the Atbash cryptogram, and finally by using the Caesar cryptogram.
Once it's been decoded, it says, "SEARCH FOR THE BLINDEYE".
After seeing the finale, I speculated that this 'Blindeye' may be Stan, because he wears an eye patch. But one day, I was on tumblr and someone noted that more often than not, Old Man McGucket's eyes aren't completely straight- which may be because one eye is glass.
Remember when Bill inhabited Dipper's body?
He said, "Man, it has been so long since I've inhabited a body... And two eyes? This thing's deluxe!"
What am I trying to get at here? I think Bill possessed Old Man McGucket at one point.
Thirty years ago (which is quite a long time ago, I might add), something happened- maybe something got taken too far, and Bill invaded his mind and took over his body. And if it's true that one of McGucket's eyes is glass... That would certainly explain the 'And two eyes? This thing's deluxe' thing he said.
If Bill possessed him, this may have been the root of his insanity. The author himself wrote to 'NEVER LET HIM INTO YOUR MIND', after all.
But there is something I haven't touched upon yet- Old Man McGucket's hand. Why is it bandaged?
McGucket is one of the several characters (along with Stan and Soos) that have five fingers. The author is assumed to have six. And let me just remind you that the pages mentioning Bill have blood on them...
Maybe he cut off one of his fingers, to hide his identity as the author.
Additionally, to further prove this theory, the laptop Dipper found had a certain initial on it:
...Old Man McGucket's full name is Fiddleford H. McGucket.
Aaaaand there may or may not also be a leaked photo (oh yeah there is a leaked photo). It leaked sometime in 2013, and shows that McGucket is the author, which is where a lot of Fallers originate the theory from!
Thank you for submitting, Anony! I had a ton of fun writing this up. If you ever need another theory, just send it in! :) // kimiko hope
pictures come from http://gravityfalls.wikia.com, theory is my own!
Note: These were submitted before Society of the Blindeye aired (and this post was written around that time as well)!
Since both of these submissions are similar, I'm gonna do it all in one post! Anonymous and greeneggs submitted:
"I have two things to say one the author of the books is old man mcgrunket (not ute in spelling) this is not a theory there was an image leaked between the seasons showing him with an unharmed arm writing one of the three journals when he was younger. The other is a partial fact and theory of the viper wheel the people on it are Stan(claw), soos(?), maybel(shooting star), dipper(pine) these and the author we know are on it for sure. The others are Robbie(heart), Pacifica(llama) based on circulating theories. Stans brother (glasses), lastly Wendy as the ice" - Submitted by Anonymous
First off, thank you for submitting!
I do know about the leaked image, actually! For those who don't know, the following image was leaked (if I can remember correctly) sometime during 2013....
"what about the author of the books ? who might it be ? = theeiry old man mcucckins" - Submitted by greeneggs
And it shows that Old Man McGucket is indeed, the author! Whether this is legit or not is unknown, but it appears to be real. (EDIT: It's fake, as proven in the episode Society of the Blindeye)
A lot of people have been making the connection that the people in the wheel represent characters! This is further proven in Dreamscaperers, when Bill refers to Soos, Dipper, and Mabel as their respective symbols when he says, "Question Mark, Shooting Star, Pine Tree. I had a hunch I'd run into you!".
If you want more insight on the symbols theory, click here! // kimiko hope
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